"As I have already stated, I am here to retrieve my apprentice. You have no right to keep him from me. You, who knows nothing of his power or how to help him, what could you possible hope to accomplish by keeping him by your side? Nothing. You can gain nothing from him, just as you are nothingness, already ensconce in the darkness as you are. He is pure, uncorrupted, of the Light. You would only drag him down. Leave him to me," His voice switches from authoritative to coaxing. He's explained why Ven staying with Axel is no good, although it's mostly lies. If he truly thought Axel could corrupt him, he would leave Ven with him. He wants him to accept the darkness.

"I understand that you wish to protect the boy, shelter him. However, you can do nothing but harm to him, even if you mean well. He belongs with me. He knows me, knows I can help him in a way no other can. Let me help him." His tone changes again on the last line, the or else hinted clearly in his tone.